The "All Opinions are Welcome, but Sorry no Instigators" Board - The "All Opinions are Welcome, but Sorry no Instigators" Board

eaglemig · eaglemig

How about an up or down Planning Board vote on Christ Church? What could it hurt? The Board complains about too many revisions, incomplete data, threats, etc. There's enough info to give Ireland the boot. Why don't they?

karen · karen

Ahhh...folks, may I call to your attention, our new "search" button! Please give it a warm welcome!!!

RTconcern · RTconcern

Looks like they found that kid at/in Split Rock. What a shame, sounds like sucha tragic situation all the way around.

rockres23yrs · rockres23yrs

I seem to recall that when the Highlands bill became law, there was a lot of discussion by the PB on whether the PB meetings should be suspended until CC successfully obtained Highlands approval. It never developed into much of an issue because the CC application was somehow put on the fast trac...

Rational · Rational

We went out to dinner with some politically knowledgeable folks tonight compared to ourselves. Previously unknown to us, there is a County of Morris Planning Board who also must sign off on things like a Megachurch which may interfere with the infrastructure of adjacent towns. Thank...

rockres23yrs · rockres23yrs

The new plans raise a couple of questions in my mind re traffic as follows: 1. In the application process is the planning board allowed to take into consideration negative traffic impacts outside the borders of RT? It's clear that if exiting traffic leaves 140 GPR and proceeds down meriden r...

saveRTnow · saveRTnow

Does anyone think this traffic disaster is only a RT issue? I have emailed the mayors of Boonton Twp. Denville and Mt lakes to notify them of their responsibility to be aware of the terrible traffic that will invade their towns if this mega-"church" went through. I urge any concerned parties to email t...

THINKER · THINKER

Talking that cc should disclose the details of the Agilent agreement: "The residents and officials of RT should know the answers to these questions. We think it's incumbent upon the church to disclose the pertinent details of its agreement with Agilent."

saveRTnow · saveRTnow

Christ "Church" has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to ry to secure a mega-campus. There are so many people in Montclair, E Orange and Newark that need food, clothing, health care etc. How can ireland use the name Christ in the name when what he is doing is so un-Christ like. Irrespective of anyo...

Rational · Rational

The listing broker for the 140 GPR is: Staubach c/o Tom Stanton His telephone number is: 908-771-0400 If you want to know what is really going on, contact him. -- Edited by Rational at 09:29, 2005-07-06

THINKER · THINKER

Tract planned for Christ Church back on the market Agilent says decision doesn't signal weakening of $14M property deal By Rob Jennings, Daily Record ROCKAWAY TWP. - The 107-acre site where Christ Church of Montclair wants to build its controversial mega-church was recently put back on the...

Rational · Rational

Here are some thoughts on a timeline for the condemnation of 140 GPR. We need to take the property before Ireland takes possession. There are a few reasons for this, IMHO: 1. If we take it from Agilent, we can probably get away with a few million for the process. 2. If we wait until after irel...

Rational · Rational

For most of you out there, you can check some of this out for yourselves. The listing agent is: Staubach http://www.staubach.com/ Tel: 1-800-944-0012 Note that Agilent is listed on their Home Page. You may need to find an insider like I have to get the real scoop on the commitme...

ChuckM2005 · ChuckM2005

Jennings from the DR. He called Agilent this afternoon, Tues, 7/5 and they confirmed that the property is back on the market. They havent closed with anyone. They went on to say that this doesnt mean that they have severed relations with CC, just that they want to explore all possibilities. So s...

Rational · Rational

Here is a quote from Ireland (this was related to me via our real estate agent who spoke with someone at the listing agency {Staubach}). Ireland said this to someone at the listing agency, folks: "I am bringing my church to that property come Hell or High Water."

Rational · Rational

Two pieces of information this morning: 1. The 140 GPR property listing is with an agency named "Staubach" in Summit. 2. This morning, ireland has decided to close on the property without having the approvals. Thus, it is no longer on the market. Are you folks still sure that yo...

THINKER · THINKER

print an article "Chicago mega-church opens doors" The 203,000 sq. foot House of Hope started with fewer than 200 members in 1985. Now has 22,000 members. Are they trying to tell us something?

Lisa Salberg · Lisa Salberg

Hi all, I have had some time to look at the plans and discuss them with some experts. I would highly recommend those living on Meriden Rd get down to town hall and look at these plans ASAP! The traffic lights have moved again, there are 2 of them one at the Green Pond Rd. and Meriden Rd and a second li...

Rational · Rational

Finally, some great news! I just received a phone call from our real estate broker. She informed me that 140 GPR is officially back on the market!! Lets all pray for a buyer asap.

As a side bar - - - anyone want to take any bets the the DR does not cover this story? ...

Rational · Rational

I have made my suggestion as to the solution to the cc problem. I have set up this thread so that others can share with the rest of us their potential solutions to the cc problem. Please post them all here. Thanks Rat

Rational · Rational

Here is a new and "Supreme" proposal for 140 GPR. At the outset, I want to say that I personally find the latest Supreme Court ruling regarding Eminent Domain to be a deplorable re-writing of the Constitution, (legislation from the bench) but given that, it offers RT an interesting al...

Rational · Rational

Mayor Sceusi is a lawyer by trade. I spoke with him about two years ago about the problem at hand. He told me on the telephone that the most that we could possibly do with respect to the cc problem is to reduce its scope. What we are seeing is his wisdom come to pass. Our may...

karen · karen

Sooooo....what's up on Split Rock road? The entire parking lot is cordoned off, there's about a dozen quads and cruisers from RT and Park Police, and about 30 people milling about. I'm told "You can't cross the bridge, there's a... uh, the bridge is closed". Scott is told, "There's a missing pe...

RTconcern · RTconcern

"This is the second time that the church has sought a recusal for a Rockaway Township official as a result of a blatant conflict of interest," said Weinstein, referring to an incident last October in which the environmental commission's chairman attended a fundraiser hosted by buildin...

Rational · Rational

At around 2:45 PM on Saturday, 25 June, I saw Page Hopkins interview Marci Hamilton on the Fox network. They discussed the up and comming probable resignation(s) of Supreme Court Judge(s). This was the first time I had actually seen here presentation; she came off quite knowledgable i...

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Up or down vote (Preview) How about an up or down Planning Board vote on Christ Church? What could it hurt? The Board complains about too many revisions, incomplete data, threats, etc. There's enough info to give Ireland the boot. Why don't they?	eaglemig	4	344	Wed Jul 13 8:51 AM, 2005 by RTconcern
	New Feature (Preview) Ahhh...folks, may I call to your attention, our new "search" button! Please give it a warm welcome!!!	karen	1	290	Tue Jul 12 10:37 PM, 2005 by karen
	kid at Split Rock (Preview) Looks like they found that kid at/in Split Rock. What a shame, sounds like sucha tragic situation all the way around.	RTconcern	1	308	Mon Jul 11 9:00 PM, 2005 by karen
	Future PB Meetings Contingent? (Preview) I seem to recall that when the Highlands bill became law, there was a lot of discussion by the PB on whether the PB meetings should be suspended until CC successfully obtained Highlands approval. It never developed into much of an issue because the CC application was somehow put on the fast trac...	rockres23yrs	3	323	Sun Jul 10 3:07 PM, 2005 by Rational
	County Planning Board (Preview) We went out to dinner with some politically knowledgeable folks tonight compared to ourselves. Previously unknown to us, there is a County of Morris Planning Board who also must sign off on things like a Megachurch which may interfere with the infrastructure of adjacent towns. Thank...	Rational	4	314	Sun Jul 10 10:42 AM, 2005 by Rational
	New Traffic Questions (Preview) The new plans raise a couple of questions in my mind re traffic as follows: 1. In the application process is the planning board allowed to take into consideration negative traffic impacts outside the borders of RT? It's clear that if exiting traffic leaves 140 GPR and proceeds down meriden r...	rockres23yrs	4	343	Sat Jul 9 1:30 PM, 2005 by rockres23yrs
	Denville BT and Mt Lakes (Preview) Does anyone think this traffic disaster is only a RT issue? I have emailed the mayors of Boonton Twp. Denville and Mt lakes to notify them of their responsibility to be aware of the terrible traffic that will invade their towns if this mega-"church" went through. I urge any concerned parties to email t...	saveRTnow	3	362	Fri Jul 8 5:35 PM, 2005 by JohnQ
	DR editorial today (Preview) Talking that cc should disclose the details of the Agilent agreement: "The residents and officials of RT should know the answers to these questions. We think it's incumbent upon the church to disclose the pertinent details of its agreement with Agilent."	THINKER	2	336	Fri Jul 8 9:43 AM, 2005 by Rational
	Biggest Shame of all (Preview) Christ "Church" has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to ry to secure a mega-campus. There are so many people in Montclair, E Orange and Newark that need food, clothing, health care etc. How can ireland use the name Christ in the name when what he is doing is so un-Christ like. Irrespective of anyo...	saveRTnow	1	309	Thu Jul 7 2:21 PM, 2005 by ChuckM2005
	Staubach Contact (Preview) The listing broker for the 140 GPR is: Staubach c/o Tom Stanton His telephone number is: 908-771-0400 If you want to know what is really going on, contact him. -- Edited by Rational at 09:29, 2005-07-06	Rational	9	502	Thu Jul 7 2:15 PM, 2005 by ChuckM2005
	Tract planned for Christ Church back on the market (Preview) Tract planned for Christ Church back on the market Agilent says decision doesn't signal weakening of $14M property deal By Rob Jennings, Daily Record ROCKAWAY TWP. - The 107-acre site where Christ Church of Montclair wants to build its controversial mega-church was recently put back on the...	THINKER	2	377	Wed Jul 6 4:01 PM, 2005 by rockres23yrs
	Condemnation Timeline (Preview) Here are some thoughts on a timeline for the condemnation of 140 GPR. We need to take the property before Ireland takes possession. There are a few reasons for this, IMHO: 1. If we take it from Agilent, we can probably get away with a few million for the process. 2. If we wait until after irel...	Rational	1	334	Wed Jul 6 8:55 AM, 2005 by fyrral
	Check it Out for Yourselves (Preview) For most of you out there, you can check some of this out for yourselves. The listing agent is: Staubach http://www.staubach.com/ Tel: 1-800-944-0012 Note that Agilent is listed on their Home Page. You may need to find an insider like I have to get the real scoop on the commitme...	Rational	3	370	Tue Jul 5 10:05 PM, 2005 by ChuckM2005
	Just spoke with (Preview) Jennings from the DR. He called Agilent this afternoon, Tues, 7/5 and they confirmed that the property is back on the market. They havent closed with anyone. They went on to say that this doesnt mean that they have severed relations with CC, just that they want to explore all possibilities. So s...	ChuckM2005	3	310	Tue Jul 5 6:36 PM, 2005 by Rational
	Quotation from ireland (Preview) Here is a quote from Ireland (this was related to me via our real estate agent who spoke with someone at the listing agency {Staubach}). Ireland said this to someone at the listing agency, folks: "I am bringing my church to that property come Hell or High Water."	Rational	1	309	Tue Jul 5 2:27 PM, 2005 by BR
	140 GPR Listing and Very Bad News (Preview) Two pieces of information this morning: 1. The 140 GPR property listing is with an agency named "Staubach" in Summit. 2. This morning, ireland has decided to close on the property without having the approvals. Thus, it is no longer on the market. Are you folks still sure that yo...	Rational	3	270	Tue Jul 5 12:20 PM, 2005 by Rational
	I find this odd that the DR would (Preview) print an article "Chicago mega-church opens doors" The 203,000 sq. foot House of Hope started with fewer than 200 members in 1985. Now has 22,000 members. Are they trying to tell us something?	THINKER	3	220	Mon Jul 4 6:07 PM, 2005 by Rational
	devils in the details (Preview) Hi all, I have had some time to look at the plans and discuss them with some experts. I would highly recommend those living on Meriden Rd get down to town hall and look at these plans ASAP! The traffic lights have moved again, there are 2 of them one at the Green Pond Rd. and Meriden Rd and a second li...	Lisa Salberg	17	338	Mon Jul 4 11:52 AM, 2005 by karen
	140 GPR is back on the Market (Preview) Finally, some great news! I just received a phone call from our real estate broker. She informed me that 140 GPR is officially back on the market!! Lets all pray for a buyer asap. As a side bar - - - anyone want to take any bets the the DR does not cover this story? ...	Rational	4	173	Sat Jul 2 7:43 PM, 2005 by Rational
	Alternative Solution Thread (Preview) I have made my suggestion as to the solution to the cc problem. I have set up this thread so that others can share with the rest of us their potential solutions to the cc problem. Please post them all here. Thanks Rat	Rational	3	188	Sat Jul 2 4:25 PM, 2005 by Rational
	A New and "Supreme" Proposal (Preview) Here is a new and "Supreme" proposal for 140 GPR. At the outset, I want to say that I personally find the latest Supreme Court ruling regarding Eminent Domain to be a deplorable re-writing of the Constitution, (legislation from the bench) but given that, it offers RT an interesting al...	Rational	15	355	Sat Jul 2 9:49 AM, 2005 by Rational
	The Mayor Spoke (Preview) Mayor Sceusi is a lawyer by trade. I spoke with him about two years ago about the problem at hand. He told me on the telephone that the most that we could possibly do with respect to the cc problem is to reduce its scope. What we are seeing is his wisdom come to pass. Our may...	Rational	2	179	Sat Jul 2 9:47 AM, 2005 by Rational
	Split Rock Action (Preview) Sooooo....what's up on Split Rock road? The entire parking lot is cordoned off, there's about a dozen quads and cruisers from RT and Park Police, and about 30 people milling about. I'm told "You can't cross the bridge, there's a... uh, the bridge is closed". Scott is told, "There's a missing pe...	karen	2	174	Tue Jun 28 7:44 PM, 2005 by Lisa Salberg
	Egotistic Jacka$$! (Preview) "This is the second time that the church has sought a recusal for a Rockaway Township official as a result of a blatant conflict of interest," said Weinstein, referring to an incident last October in which the environmental commission's chairman attended a fundraiser hosted by buildin...	RTconcern	21	453	Sat Jun 25 3:57 PM, 2005 by Rational
	Marci on Fox (Preview) At around 2:45 PM on Saturday, 25 June, I saw Page Hopkins interview Marci Hamilton on the Fox network. They discussed the up and comming probable resignation(s) of Supreme Court Judge(s). This was the first time I had actually seen here presentation; she came off quite knowledgable i...	Rational	0	133	Sat Jun 25 2:04 PM, 2005 by Rational
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