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OK guys - let's start a journal of 'classic posts' from the cc supporters over at nj.con.  This way, we'll have one thread here with a permanent record...This one really had me laughing - the poster claims that cc is moving because Montclair won't give them any fields!  Remember - this thread is for CLASSICS only - posts that we can all get a good laugh at!






2299.2.1. Private property sale
by jerryRT, 6/17/04 19:14 ET
Re: GO VISIT THE CHURCH by greenmen, 6/17/04

Nice to see you judge people you won't even visit. If you are going to tell groups what they can and can't buy even though it's private property you could at least visit them. Montclair can not offer fields so the church is moving and will be more fields for the town to use



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This was the best yet. CC is moving because they want a field. Had me laughing out loud!

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Hey jay, I gotta believe that mostly all of them are ted, but note how he trys to disguise it by writing like a fourth grader. I have to believe that nobody can really be that dumb and post the same way ALL DAY LONG!

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Hey guys - let's keep this thread for nj.con humorous posts only...Move the discussion to another thread, OK?  That way, all the comments will be condensed and easy to find...Here's another recent post that's good for a laugh:






2264. Church support growing
by rockmyway, 6/15/04 0:40 ET

Now that many see that CC is trying to protect the land and help people they are ralling for a fair hearing. Some still are against the church and seem angry that CC supported the highland bill. Those few have other reason for being against CC and no matter how much good they bring will never want them. It is nice to see that CC has taken the high road and has never posted any attacks even though they are attacked everyday.



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Another class - cc can't post all the good work they've done for the environment because it would take up needed space (hey cc - use up the entire web - don't worry, we'll make more):


2269.1.1. Contact them
by windfall, 6/15/04 19:42 ET
Re: VIST THEM OR READ MORE by windfall, 6/15/04


They would be happy to help you. Most churches don't post all of the work they do on web sites it takes up needed space. They do it because it helps people not to seek fame. Just contact them if you need more information.



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OK I'll play, Stop being mean to Santa Claus we want our presents.






2251.1.1.1.1.1.1.1. Never from the church
by windfall, 6/15/04 1:16 ET
Re: more than parking by watchmsquirm, 6/15/04

You need to read all post again. I never saw a post from anyone from the church. I doubt they would post here. I would love to hear from them. All the petty fighting here is foolish. It would be nice to hear from the church.Maybe once they move here they will post updates on the progress of the free fields and health/club for us. I would like to be kept up to date on it. I am sure the kids in town are thrilled to have more places to play.



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One from the good old days...Nasty VORT - why do you hate schools so much, LOL:


 






1895. How many people think a school is the best choice for that site.
by notgoodsign, 4/26/04 20:30 ET

Do most people here want a school for that site? I think a school is a better use of the land then having CC. If vort fights a school to get even wth the BOE, will you support it. I for one think vort should pipe down and take their weirdness some place else. Any sane person knows a school is a good idea for that spot.



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I remember laughing my ass of over this one, too bad it was so short-lived!


1762. Not really
by toddredux, 3/19/04 21:34 ET


First how do you know the board will not approve it. And in court things can move fast or slow The town would not appeal if it lost in court because to much cost to the tax payer.


Not to mention agilent could sue the town and the justice dept could make a charge that the churches rights have been hit. I have heard that from some lawyers not sure how that would work but I think the town should look into it before they go that way.

Many cases get settled when this happens pretty fast. I even heard the mayor say in the paper months ago courts in NJ favor churches in this.

Lets just try to do whatever is legal who ever wants to buy the land church,temple,company that is all the people in town want.


 


1762.1. Let me do this one...
by divadddot, 3/19/04 21:49 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


HiTed


 


1762.1.1. Thanks Divad!
by xuderddot, 3/19/04 21:57 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Hey Divad,

I'll see you at the Ddot family reunion, correct?

Your cousin,Xuder




1762.1.1.1. Now I'm LMAO
by divadddot, 3/19/04 22:01 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Good one....Hope to CU soon.So, do you think a lot of people will go to the next meeting???




1762.1.1.1.1. CU there
by xuderddot, 3/19/04 22:05 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


I for one will be at the next meet.

My brother-in-law Det will be there too, so it'll be a quiet family reunion while we hear all the excitement on stage.

I hope to have a few hundred other of our Rockaway friends there too! Maybe even a few Christ Church supporters also.

Persinally, I want to see as many peoples from both sides as possible. Let both sides show lots ov support!




1762.1.1.2. Hi Boys!
by noromddot, 3/19/04 22:03 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Haven't seen you since old Uncle Yagsi passed on--looking forward to seeing you at the reunion!




1762.1.1.2.1. Norom???
by divadddot, 3/19/04 22:09 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Is that really you???How are your toofuses?? last time they were both hurting you.Did the dentist make 'em right?




1762.1.1.2.1.1. More Like...
by noromddot, 3/19/04 22:10 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Toofus. Dentist made 'em all right except the one he left in my mouth still ails me some.



1762.1.1.2.1.2. Hey uncle Norom!
by xuderddot, 3/19/04 22:13 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


See ya at Morris Nolls for the next big event. I usully sit in the back section on the write. Come join me there. We'll all sit together!!!

You to Divadd! I'll even bring some of my Mom's cookies to snack on.



 


1762.1.1.2.1.2.2. Now Xuder...
by noromddot, 3/19/04 22:17 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


...you watch what you say about your mama's cookies. You know she's real special to me.

Ask her to bring the undies I left at her house last time. I've missed them and the other pair are near wore out.




1762.1.1.2.2. count me in!
by tihsstaeddot, 3/19/04 22:10 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


i can't wait to see you again norom. hopefully kcocasi and his life partner yobyag will be there.


1762.1.1.2.1.2.1. hey cuzin
by regnifssadot, 3/19/04 22:15 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


hey there norom, i'm your second cusin. you wanna get together and do a little varmint huntin' soon? they are mighty tasty!!!


 1762.1.1.2.2.1. Could you find out if
by divadddot, 3/19/04 22:15 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


I wonder where Ssab Mudsih is ???


 


1762.1.1.2.2.1.1. Ssab..
by noromddot, 3/19/04 22:19 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


I think I recollect he went back to that there Saudi Arabia. Says he misses his camel.


 


1762.1.1.2.2.1.2. i think he is...
by tihsstaeddot, 3/19/04 22:20 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


i think Ssab Mudsih is probably with aunt Norp Yaggnihctaw


 


1762.1.1.2.2.1.2.1. Auntie?!
by noromddot, 3/19/04 22:23 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


She went to Arabia too?

I do understand how he misses his camels tho, if I'm away from my sheep for more than a day I get mighty anxious.




1762.1.1.2.2.1.2.2. Ahhhh
by divadddot, 3/19/04 22:23 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


OOOHHHHAHHHHHI get it.Well I guess he found some MIDDLEGROUND


 


1762.1.1.2.2.1.2.2.1. Church--
by noromddot, 3/19/04 22:25 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Maybe the church could find some middle ground there too.


1762.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.1. I heard
by divadddot, 3/19/04 22:26 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


He once told me that he used to have great succes with the sheep.What he would do is walk them to the edge of a pond.

And just put their rear legs straight into the top of his boots.

I could never figure out way a person would want to do such a thing.


1762.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.1.1. Sheep
by noromddot, 3/19/04 22:29 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Ya, the edge of a cliff works good too, but ye gotta be careful, remember what happened to our distant cousin Odlid Ddot. Sometimes them sheep aint too sure-footed.


1762.1.1.2.2.1.2.2.1.1. Middelgrownd
by xuderddot, 3/19/04 22:26 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Norom -> You no there wont be any middelgrownd. Theyll just bild on the middelgrownd to!


 


1762.1.1.2.2.1.2.2..1.1. Buildin'
by noromddot, 3/19/04 22:31 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


Yep, but them plannin' boards in Saudi Arabia don't care much for the environment over there. Not too much wetlands to fret over.


 


1762.1.1.2.1.2.3. Sounds like
by divadddot, 3/19/04 22:28 ET
Re: Not really by toddredux, 3/19/04


a hoe-down to me.I'll bring the chewin tabbaccy



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More jokes:


 


2330.1. UPDATE they are scaling back like the town wanted
by goodchange, 6/19/04 23:14 ET
Re: Maybe CC should get a real estate agent by gottaluvRT, 6/19/04


So they don't need to look around. A scaled back CC is all people asked for. We all knew it would be sold. People just wanted the same buildings used.That is why only a few now are against them for other reasons



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...should have posted this with the last one:


2329.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.1.1. He and the church have heard us and
by goodchange, 6/19/04 23:19 ET
Re: maybe people should try paying a visit by goodchange, 6/19/04


now are making changes in a effort of good will. Months ago they mention they would reach out this must be what they meant.Just using the buildings there is great news for the town.



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by goodchange, 6/19/04 23:49 ET
Re: Maybe CC should get a real estate agent by gottaluvRT, 6/19/04

Plus she loves to quote things like that. Try to be clam and keep a good tone. This is only a church we are talking about. Don't forget that please, thanks you


Wow, boy his logic is killing me. If this was "only a church"  I am a clam.



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ONLY. Well that is interesting. You guys have been at the meetings and have seen the plans, is this ONLY a church?


Church = house of worship.  By there own plans it is far more than that.



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The question is asked...






2389. Insults and avoidance
by fiftyfour, 6/24/04 8:07 ET

One poster keeps refering to "insults" when people ask questions like "why would the CC people tell us they are going to change the plans yet never submit the changes" They say we are insulting someone when we ask about parking? When we ask about the 5 million dollar a year business that will be run from the property... You guessed - they claim insults again. What may I ask is insulting about these questions?

Now for avoidance, those who claim to support the applicant have not had the ability to address the questions asked of them. They keep chanting the party line - but you will have free computers and fields - aint it grand! We have many fields in RT and new ones on the way. The library has free computers (but most homes have computers).

Please address the REAL issues CC supporters. Tell us where in the Highlands bill it says this type of growth is what the state wants. Tell us why the land was not included in the 1st draft of the highlands map - when the map was created by the SAME environmental firm that CC has hired? 3 of the 4 well fields in RT were on the original map - why not this one? Also please address Mrbill55's questions they are valid concerns.


The response?  Back to retoric...






2389.1. why insult the church
by goodchange, 6/24/04 10:25 ET
Re: Insults and avoidance by fiftyfour, 6/24/04

Many seem to think they are good people. It was very nice to read about them reaching out by going to Jamaica with a medical team to help the needy and treated over 1700 people plus brought over 1 million in needed medical suppies. Now that sounds like a great neighbor we well have.


 



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I had to get this on the record before they deleted it.



2392.1. irrelevant
by BushisRONG, 6/24/04 13:16 ET
Re: Bumpin' for MrBill... by mrsstark1130, 6/24/04

Dr. Ireland can spend the money anyway he wants. It's none of your business and it has no bearing on the application.

No new parking spaces needed. This is open and shut. CC will be open next year. GET READY.

Again, Rockaway isn't a great looking town. Get over yourself.




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Sounds like our old buddy 5reasons, huh?


Our friend from the Newark board who did nothing but insult Rockaway Township as "shabby".


****wad.



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The answer to this post is priceless


2398. To Rockaway29 & Goodchange
by mrbill55, 6/24/04 18:21 ET


I have already been to the Church's offices. I was well spoken, well dressed, very polite, and respectful in my manner and tone. I was told in no uncertain terms that their books were not open for me to see, nor were their plans for the new facility. This is why I have now come here and asked the questions I did. Either you can answer them, or you cannot. If you cannot, please do not bother to post anything saying "go to the church and ask to see the books". SO, back to my main questions. Answer them with cold hard facts, do not tell me that I do not know of what I speak, as I have tried my best to do my homework. In a very public way I am now still trying to do that very homework, as my other venue (ie: my trip to their offices) was non productive. Time to put up, or shut up already.

Mrbill55


 







2398.1. go to the right place
by rockaway29, 6/24/04 18:24 ET
Re: To Rockaway29 & Goodchange by mrbill55, 6/24/04


Go visit the church bring a reporter to confirm. Everyone knows about the move and what is being built. Please learn the facts so you will be more relaxed. It has been in all the papers and the church has been asked about the move at the planning board meetings. They are very well liked one of the reasons is because they are very open.


How could Mr. Bill have made such a mistake by going to the wrong place? OH NO!


 



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I guess if we started the meetings with 20 people coming, we wouldn't be down to "ONLY" 200 or so now!


2511.1.1. biggest drop ever
by groupED6, 7/7/04 19:52 ET
Re: passion is good by justoneid, 7/7/04


Never has a meeting size dropped that fast. I doubt it was because of the key thing, so don't even try that as a reason.



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2515. I support education
by RTLUVScc, 7/7/04 21:15 ET

The fact is, is that we'd all be better off if we picked ourselves up by our bootstraps and got a Ph.D. That is the highest degree in the land. I respect and admire educated people. David Ireland has a Ph.D.




Does this mean if we can find someone with two PhDs who is against the application, cc will back down - due to his or her superior intelligence???


 



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Am I dense, or what's the deal with Todd who keeps referring to the word "key"?


"...all keyed up"


"...the key thing"


What am I missing?



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Nevermind, I get what todd's trying to do with the "keygirl" thing.


Quite the desperate move, in my opinion!


If he keeps this up, there'll be no credibility for the church's side left whatsoever. They have no legit arguments whatsoever?


OK, then...keep it up! lol



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This one's a goner for sure--we should save for posterity:






2517. Time to come clean
by insfrauddude, 7/7/04 22:32 ET

I must admit my past. I tried to do it in the Neighbor News - but frankly I did not get the attention I wanted. I tried again on my website but again I need more attention.

I am a bad person with a past and I use it to try to bully people. I really like CC because they see things my way - that is my way or the highway! I have taken the low points of my life and capitalized on them. On my video you can hear about my accident - I got a nice settlement from that case and took in some cash on the side

I wrote a book on how to raise kids, funny thing is I have not done it myself yet my oldest still lives at home and the younger ones are still in school. So did I do a good job in raising my kids - Who KNOWS I aint done yet - but I figured it is good for my EGO to make you all think I have the answers. If you want to know about life glue a deck of cards together -THAT is the real mystery of life!

Can anyone guess who I am?



DANG IT, IT WAS DELETED BEFORE i COULD POST THIS REPLY--


Dude... by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04

Your kid's a friggin' wing nut.

And what's with cutting up the neighbor kid's Bart Simpson t-shirt? His dad sure was peeved about that one!



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Looks like someone hit a nerve there...



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2517. limitations
by insfrauddude, 7/7/04 22:38 ET

does anyone know how far back the governement or an insruance company can get you for Insurance fraud?




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This thread was unbelievable--I couldn't believe it lived as long as it did! Alas, we bid it a fond farewell...


2518.1. child M>>>>>>>>???
by insfrauddude, 7/7/04 22:42 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04


What would you say if your neighbor cut your childs shirt off of him, because he was upset with the picture on it?????





 






2518.1.1. I'd be...
by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04 22:43 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04

plenty peeved, I would!




2518.1.1.1. What if he came to your home?
by insfrauddude, 7/7/04 22:44 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04


And spoke to your child ALONE...rather odd behavior for a grown man dont ya think?



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2518.1.1.1.1. Yeah...
by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04 22:45 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04

...if he dragged my kid out of my house when no grownups were home.

A guy with a criminal past, 68 funerals, stabbings, biker gangs...

I'd tell him to get his arse off my property, and fast!

Oh wait...that's what happened!




 


 2518.1.1.1.1.1. YOUR KIDDING
by insfrauddude, 7/7/04 22:47 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04


That is a TRUE STORY????

I thought it was an urban legend!!!!!





 


2518.1.1.1.1.1.1. Aye, my friend...
by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04 22:48 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04


it's true...not an urban legend, but indeed a rural truth.








2518.1.1.1.1.1.1.2. REALLY!
by insfrauddude, 7/7/04 22:51 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04

Why didnt he speak to the parents or the school?? Why bully a kid that he hardly knows?? WOW this is really strange behavior for an adult - that with a history of such things as stabbings, funerals (68) and illeagal acts - I would call the COPS!




 


2518.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1. It just goes to show...
by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04 22:53 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04


...that the church gets the toughest, meanest people on their side so the town feels powerless against them.

Between this guy and the Becket guys, we should cower in the corner.

God forbid my funeral be his 69th!





 






2518.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1. DO TELL?!!?
by insfrauddude, 7/7/04 22:54 ET
Re: Hit a Nerve, Russ? by mrsstark1133, 7/7/04

REALLY?

If this is the type of person that will be attending CC what will it be like with 5000 of them here. I can not think they are all like this, so it is at least nice to know that he is in the minority there as well. Seeing as only 2 people in the town really want this project for selfish reasons!

The HIghlands Bill will save the town!





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OH Thats it, I will do anything for a tennis court!






2530.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2. upset why?
by viking1960, 7/9/04 20:28 ET
Re: Wetlands by viking1960, 7/9/04

It has been known for along time the church offers many things to the town. Some of them are fields,tennis courts,computer classes and a learning and fitness center. Why do you think so few people go to the meetings. Most are just fine with this church buying the old agilent property. I don't get why this upsets you?




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Hey VORT members - This post is confusing...I guess your're taking money from prison builders?  LOL!!!


2563. Look into this
by yesSir99, 7/12/04 16:41 ET


Let's hope the papers do a story on the backroom deals the group against the church is trying to pull off. Word has it they would rather have the state build a prison there. Why has vort taken so much money from builders to help with there fight against Christ Church?



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Hey - given the choice between a prison and Christ Church, I would take the prison hands down!  Here are my reasons:


1. Any infrastructure Impact would be dealt with "cards up" ahead of time.  The state would not be deceitful regarding impact and would negotiate the limitations that the town would desire on the usage of the property. 


2. The growth of the Prison population would be limited by statute.


3. Infrastructure improvements would be provided by the state.


4. I doubt that the population of the prison would be anywhere near the de-facto projection that Ireland has for his Gigachurch.


5. There would be no "hidden agenda" with a prison project.


6. We would be dealing with a more honest agent - - - the State rather than Ireland.



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LOL 


I must have missed that post on NJ.com VORT is taking money from builders!  Hey that is a good one. 


FYI as always our books are always open for review - by appointment.


No, we have not taken any donations from builders - some renovation people who live in town, a doctor or two, some people who work for churches in town, some work at the mall, some work for large companies some for small.  What do they have in common?  They all care about Rockaway Twp and are willing to support efforts to protect the town from over development.


Have a nice day!


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Whatta guy todd is! Suddenly he's fair and diplomatic...unlike his OTHER selves...


2596. Please
by monsterRT, 7/14/04 12:40 ET


don't say vort is trying to build a prison.That is not true and wrong.Thank You.

See ,what's right is right.And that applies to everyone.


[I replied here with the rules of good cop/bad cop but it was promptly deleted]


Then:


2597.1. Reading comprehension
by monsterRT, 7/14/04 13:07 ET
Re: VORT now builders?? by windfal, 7/14/04


I said the OPPOSITE.CCompromise was upset that someone had posted this about vort.I said it is NOT TRUE.Again sir,vort is NOT building a prison.I was actually trying to refute that rumor about vort and defend them.Please re-read.Thank You.


2597.1.1. Good Cop/Bad Cop
by mrsstark1134, 7/14/04 13:28 ET
Re: VORT now builders?? by windfal, 7/14/04


Just like the post that you obliterated previously, you should know that you need two ACTUAL PEOPLE to play good cop vs. bad cop, not just two personalities of the same person.

Everyone knows the church supporters on this board are all one person. One very boring person with obviously a lot of time on his hands.



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2773.1.1.1. Easy answer
by ThorRT, 7/24/04 14:07 ET
Re: CC on record lawsuit by TheMoneyShot, 7/24/04

Marci Hamilton has already said she can't comment on the compromise.

If they were not talking she would just say that. The fact is CC has said in the papers they are making changes and the planning board put off the meetings so this can be done.

Marci Hamilton was hired now to help with a compromise.

There is no court case now, she was hired so soon because her first goal in all these cases is to broker a compromise.

You of course no this, and are mad because you know you can't show one place where people say there won't be a compromise. That is because it is happening.

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