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Originally posted by: Maria
"look at all the churchs and other houses of worship...the schools and the township itself...you will find all the outreach programs

Seems like if there is so many of them, it would be easy for you to list a few.

Where are they??

 

... well...no matter what...RT does not need their outreach...again...ireland should be going to newark or irvington if he wants to find people in need of some sort of salvation...this is not a racist statement...it is based on the crime rates, teen pregnancy, etc of those areas...they NEED help...we DO NOT!

The list?

 

 

and as for volunteering being foreign to me - shove it...i probably do more and have done...since high school...more volunteer work than you could ever imagine...my DOG does volunteer work (quite serious)...so...if you don't have proof of what you are saying...keep it to yourself...

My statement wasn't directed at you personally, only that you failed to recognize the purpose of the ministries at CC and other churches like them.  I think you still don't get it.

 

 

as for taxes...i am completely aware that this has no LEGAL stance...HOWEVER...it does have importance to each tax payer that will have to shell out THEIR hard earned money to support a ireland's kingdom...

You already shell out your hard earned money to support Craig's Temple and all the other HoWs in town.  Just like every other American does.  So in your mind, CC shouldn't be afforded the same rights because you don't like their religion or their pastor?

 

so nice that ireland doesn't care about the hardships he will be imposing on the residents of RT...no outreach program is going to put the money back into our pockets...

 

I guess you don't care about the hardships you'll be imposing on his congregation and their children if they're forced to stay in Montclair when you deny their legal right to build a church on land that they have a every legal right to buy.

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(( Since this is not your town, why do you not mind your own business. ))

aarrgghh ... Don't make me go through the archives again -- this has been covered in previous postings, remember ??? 

(( You are a real "Yenta" ))

Nahh - If anything, I'm more a "Kvetch" than "Yenta." Gossip isn't my cup of tea. 

-B.

Maria, get it together!  I mean, which is it?  RT has all the outreach programs it needs, or RT does not need the programs?  You can't even make up your mind!

All of that is besides the point, which is that CC would serve not just RT but the entire region.  So people from all over the area would be blessed by their ministries.  It isn't just all about you, you'll just be in the best position to take advantage of it.

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Originally posted by: Tim
"Maria, get it together!  I mean, which is it?  RT has all the outreach programs it needs, or RT does not need the programs?  You can't even make up your mind!
All of that is besides the point, which is that CC would serve not just RT but the entire region.  So people from all over the area would be blessed by their ministries.  It isn't just all about you, you'll just be in the best position to take advantage of it."

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Originally posted by: Tim
"Maria, get it together!  I mean, which is it?  RT has all the outreach programs it needs, or RT does not need the programs?  You can't even make up your mind! All of that is besides the point, which is that CC would serve not just RT but the entire region.  So people from all over the area would be blessed by their ministries.  It isn't just all about you, you'll just be in the best position to take advantage of it."

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Allow me to step in here. Our church has many outreach programs that are appropriate for the "types of issues" facing the "people who live in this area". Some examples include: coping with the loss of a loved one, divorce, dealing with terminal illness, caring for an elderly parent. Our youth ministries also hold many fund raisers which the proceeds are used to help the needy nationwide. Notice there are no programs for ex convicts, pregnant teenagers, drug rehab, etc. I'm sure there are a few isolated cases of this in the area, but it is not the norm.

The best thing about a our church is the it is large enough to provide quality services and programs, yet small enough to provide a community feel. For example, the head pastor visited us when my mother passed away. The assistant pastor called us to check on my mother in law when she was hospitalized, and on 9/11 the pastors wife called our house to see if I was OK, knowing that I travel to the city for work.

I wonder if Ireland will have time to call on his 25,000 congregants, Maybe only those who tithe enough to get into the Gold Club are elligible for that. Besides he is to busy writting books and preparing for his weekly shows.

To CC Shills (Russ, Matthew)

It is absolutely none of your (irelands or cc's) business whether or not we have any outreach programs whatsoever.  You have a lot of audicity meddling in our affairs and telling us what we need to have.  This is our town and county, NOT YOURS.  We know it and what it needs, and we provide for it.  Not you.

Get it? Got it? Good!

Finally we are done with this topic as I am sure that everyone will agree!

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Originally posted by: Nameless
""Nobody in the entire county wants this thing.  " Hey genius/loony/craigy/maria/Sceusi/Lisa/Karen/Scott/Adam/Kim/John/Jay/BJR, I thought you only spoke for yourself, now you speak for the whole county!  Classic!    "

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Hey Nameless,

At the end of the day:

1. We don't need it

2. 99.999% of the residents in the surrounding area don't want it

3. It is still too big

4. It's a business not a church. A show not a religious service.

5. Ireland is a showman and a businessman and can not be trusted

6. It will NEVER happen here. We will FIGHT it to the end.

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Originally posted by: Craig Maier
"To CC Shills (Russ, Matthew) It is absolutely none of your (irelands or cc's) business whether or not we have any outreach programs whatsoever.  You have a lot of audicity meddling in our affairs and telling us what we need to have.  This is our town and county, NOT YOURS.  We know it and what it needs, and we provide for it.  Not you. Get it? Got it? Good! Finally we are done with this topic as I am sure that everyone will agree!"

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Craig,

You know where my sentiments are on the issues here.  And guess what, I live less than 5 miles away from you, smack dab in the middle of Morris County.  And I know a few other people who live in the area, some even in RT (not Tedd or Russ) who are happy CC is coming to town.

So enough of this nonsense that "everyone" is against them. 

As I have said, I am not supporting them, but as I've also said before, there is no legal means to deny them that I'm aware of at this point.  Check with your town planner, I think he'll concur.

Matthew

Friendly suggestion:  Re-read Matthew's message ... what part of (( ... As I have said, I am not supporting them ... )) doesn't make sense to you ??

From the message he posted, I see no reason for you to tell him to go crawl under a rock !?!?

-B.

Matthew aka Russ,

We know about 100 families here in Morris County.  There is only one person in one of those familes who is ambivilent about the cc situation.  Everyone else is vehemently against it.  I would say that 100 families is a pretty darn good statistical sampling.

And Bystander: Why do you not go back under that rock from which you crawled. As always, you contribute absolutely nothing to any conversation.  You are as useless as tits on a chicken, as I have indicated before.  Nobody told you it was time to come out.  Now take your toys, little girly, and go home.

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Originally posted by: So Funny
"LOL!!!!!! Craigy, seriously, please never stop posting, even after CC moves in.  You are by far the funniest little dude around.  The pure, unadulterated small-mindedness never stops making me laugh, and for that I thank you.  Even when the bigotry spews forth I try stay calm and remind myself of what a great example you are - a perfect case study on the impact of such foolishness on the human mind. Goodness, you really are a laugh riot."

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Wanna see all the funny little US patent plaques on the wall of our library in my name?  Give me a call at 973-316-5098 and set up an apointment.  They are pretty funny looking little things.  My good friends and buddies always split their sides when they see 'em. 

Russ,

Just exactly what have you accomplished in your lifetime besides shill for ireland?  Please advise.

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Originally posted by: Craig Maier
"Matthew aka Russ, We know about 100 families here in Morris County.  There is only one person in one of those familes who is ambivilent about the cc situation.  Everyone else is vehemently against it.  I would say that 100 families is a pretty darn good statistical sampling. And Bystander: Why do you not go back under that rock from which you crawled. As always, you contribute absolutely nothing to any conversation.  You are as useless as tits on a chicken, as I have indicated before.  Nobody told you it was time to come out.  Now take your toys, little girly, and go home."

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Craig my friend, I think you forgot that you weren't responding to me. Have you had a change of heart?

If so, welcome back, good to talk with you again!

Matthew 

Hey if thats true, who is Thinker? You should go and check out the truth forum, I mean Thinkers forum. All these alter egos get me confused. Or are they called Avatars? That sounds like a very unchristian name. Matter of fact I am pretty sure its based in Hinduism.

Jeez.  Are they all one and the same person?