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Hey - this fight is taking 5 years AND it's in a busier citified area AND they're moving CLOSER to where their members live:


 


http://www.tribnet.com/news/local/story/5111315p-5037980c.html


 






  






Fred Matamoros | THE News Tribune



Proposed Christian Faith Center

Two sides face off over proposed megachurch


STEVE MAYNARD; The News Tribune

Opponents and proponents of a proposed megachurch in Federal Way faced off Monday night, clashing over the increased traffic and community benefits Christian Faith Center would bring.

More than 150 people overflowed City Hall for a public hearing on the 320,026-square-foot project, which includes a 4,500-seat sanctuary.



"Traffic in Federal Way is already bad," resident Lynn Bowen said. "This is all going to lead to road rage."



But church member Nesbia Lopes said Christian Faith Center would be "a fantastic neighbor," bringing customers to restaurants and stores and church programs for children.



The Rev. Casey Treat and his Christian Faith Center have tried for five years to build the megachurch and sanctuary.



Opponents say the project would add more traffic, remove some wetlands and take one of Federal Way's last large chunks of business property partly off the tax rolls. The church is requesting a rezone from business park to multifamily residential for the 47-acre site between Interstate 5 and Highway 99, south of South 336th Street.



Treat wants to put up a 218,500-square-foot sanctuary and a 101,526-square-foot school.



Monday night's hearing was a step toward the City Council taking action on the project in July.



City officials recently recommended the City Council approve the project, which includes Christian Faith Center paying for widening, adding turn lanes and other improvements on four streets to offset increased traffic.



The entire church project would cost $60 million. The church would spend $6.9 million to offset the impact of the development, including $4.7 million on street improvements, a church official told the City Council on Monday.



According to an environmental impact statement, traffic at three intersections on Sundays would exceed the city's capacity limits.



The statement estimates more than 2,000 vehicles would enter and leave the church after the Sunday morning service. Traffic would increase beyond the city limits at eight intersections near the site during the weekday evening commute. The church would generate 26.5 percent of the peak evening commute traffic that a business park on the site would cause, the document says.



If the City Council approves construction, Christian Faith Center hopes to start grading the site immediately, church spokesman Morgan Llewellyn said. Construction would start in early 2005 with the church's opening planned for late that year, Llewellyn said.



Church members stressed at the meeting how the congregation has helped them and will help others in Federal Way. From added store sales to food bank donations, Christian Faith Center "brings to you a lot of opportunities," member Troy Dawson said.



Treat said Monday he wants to move the church from its SeaTac location to be closer to where the majority of its members live. About 4,000 of the 6,200 who attend Christian Faith Center in SeaTac live in the Federal Way area. Another 1,600 attend a satellite church in Everett.



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karen

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Yeah, very important difference:


..."Treat said Monday he wants to move the church from its SeaTac location to be closer to where the majority of its members live. About 4,000 of the 6,200 who attend Christian Faith Center in SeaTac live in the Federal Way area."



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Tellmark

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Every city in this nation should change their zoning rules now while they have a chance to avoid going through what other towns are dealing with now.

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Craig Maier

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And we here in RT should be examining other "Megatrends" in other industries besides religion to see what is going on out there and pass appropriate zoning laws BEFORE we are confronted with the next problem.  Actually, I would suggest firing the present Planner and hiring someone with a bit more of a proactive approach to his job.

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Freedom Rider

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Do they currently own the property? That might make a difference.

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greenponder

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Originally posted by: Freedom Rider

"Do they currently own the property? That might make a difference."


 


No,  they have a contract on the property, with the condition that if it  is approved.  and then the sale will go thru



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Good Find

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Sounds like they will be moving into that town.   Same thing that's going to happen in RT.

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Jay R

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Originally posted by: Good Find

"Sounds like they will be moving into that town.   Same thing that's going to happen in RT."


Hey - that's great!  Same thing will happen here!  The church will move to be closer to their parishoners.  I'm all for that goodfind.


What a great idea rev ireland - move somewhere close to the people you serve.  I bet rev ireland is hitting himself on the head saying, "gee - why didn't I think of that!".



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Try Newark

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He should try Newark.

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Tim

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You are an idiot.

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Duh!

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Originally posted by: Jay R

" Hey - that's great!  Same thing will happen here!  The church will move to be closer to their parishoners.  I'm all for that goodfind. What a great idea rev ireland - move somewhere close to the people you serve.  I bet rev ireland is hitting himself on the head saying, "gee - why didn't I think of that!"."


 


Some members won't come from Motclair.  New members will be added from the Morris County area.  So they will be serving those in the area.  Duh!  


And if they get no members from the area, they'd probably have to close up shop eventually and leave. 


And then the building would be all ready for Maier Ministries to take over!  LOL!



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Reality Check

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CC is done. All this chatter is amusing, but face it CC - there is way too much legal wrangling to come - many, many years, and for what? To possibly win some money from us good people here in RT? That is all the satisfaction you will ever get from RT...extortion is extortion, plain and simple.

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BJR

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I find it ironic that they always refer to widening roads and adding traffic lights as "improvements".


I can't wait until they improve Geeenpond Road and turn it into another Rt. 80.



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Hate to Say It

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quote:

Originally posted by: Craig Maier

"And we here in RT should be examining other "Megatrends" in other industries besides religion to see what is going on out there and pass appropriate zoning laws BEFORE we are confronted with the next problem.  Actually, I would suggest firing the present Planner and hiring someone with a bit more of a proactive approach to his job."

Minus the suggestion of firing the present Planner, I would have to say that Mr. Maier makes a very good point. Finding out what other "MegaTrends" are out there and passing the appropriate zoning laws will help eliminate the future headaches.

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