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karen


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What's to update?!?! Lisa and Kim described what they found in the new plans a week ago.


Is there something new?


What should the mayor be saying?


Who cares if it's quiet? There's nothing going on right now.



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I don't belive rolling over was ever suggested but RT's and CC's next move should be the topic at hand.  I take it that "more of the same" is your choice. 


If you're confident that all but a few residents are opposed to CC, the church has no chance in court and the PB will never approve the application, what do you hope to accomplish?



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karen


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Ummm...last I knew we were hoping to accomplish the salvation of our way of life here; sans traffic, environmental, and infrastructure nightmares. And we have to do that through due process, I believe. We can't skip steps, not that I know of anyway.


Why, what do you hope to accomplish?


AND what is with the ridiculous reverse psychology you're attempting on the nj.com board? What do you hope to accomplish with that?


Besides sounding silly of course.



-- Edited by karen at 19:29, 2005-07-13

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eaglemig


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A downsized plan has been submitted which addresses many of the objections that residents and officials have noted.  I don't think a "just say no" or "bring it on" attitude will be helpful.


 



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karen


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Thank you for your opinion.


I'm sure the planning board will do what they feel is best for the town while staying within the town's rights to do so.



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eaglemig wrote:

A downsized plan has been submitted which addresses many of the objections that residents and officials have noted.  I don't think a "just say no" or "bring it on" attitude will be helpful.  
We can not discount growth trends for these types of businesses. Basically, the plans are the same. A lot of square footage with no designated use has now replaced some of the areas of concern. The underground  (yes underground) parking has expanded, and traffic would be directed through residential streets where our children play. NIMBY Baby! Bring it on rEV!

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eaglemig


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I'm glad you agree.  It should be okayif the PB members behave

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JohnQ


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has the congregation been scaled back tED? Has the amount of traffic been scaled back tED?? Has the impact been reduced??? Can yOU promise a growth cap on a mega-church/corporation??? I thought not, not so bright are yOu??? Don't sweat it #1 RT cC helper mAn, our town officials will continue to do the job they are in place for, and yOu will never achieve the public office yOu so desire...

-- Edited by JohnQ at 22:04, 2005-07-13

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eaglemig


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Now it you're asking for the impossible.  To my knowledge, no organization has ever been asked to cap growth (church or business).  But if there is growth, I'm sure the church would what it's done in the past, move. 


Based on comments made a PB hearings, the Mayor seems to fear RLUIPA laws will make it imposible to stop the church from expanding but think about it.  Why would Ireland want to squeeze too many congregants into his church?  If he is, as you seem to think a business man he certainly wouldn't want to make things uncomfortable  for his customers...unless you truely belive he's out to hurt the citizens of RT.


As for infrastucture such as emergency services, roads, etc.  my opinion comes from prior observation of RT officals.  A few years back the Hibernia area of town was in need of a new fire truck.  I recall presentations by firemen and a speach by then Councilman Sceusi.  To make a long story short, Jimmy Donofrio proposed a new hotel  near Rte 80 which ended up in a court battle involving claims that officials attempted to get Donofrio to pay $500,000 for a fire truck before getting approval.  I believe similar circumstances are at work with CC. 


Again it's only a opinion but ask any fire/rescue volunteer in RT.  The Birchwood fire house is quite stressed due to the Mall...they need new equipment.  Also the roads near 140 GPR already need an upgrade and I'm sure Council would like to have it paid for rather than expend tax dollars.  I have no problem with putting infrastucture issues on the table so long as the laws governing usage fees are followed. 


The prior mayor was able to get pond view estates to commit to voluntary contributions to the BOE...it wasn't enough ($500/door as I recall) but it was something  



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Rational


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Eagle,


Just how much does ireland pay you for your ineffective childish rantings?  I hope that the man is smart enough not to pay more than minimum wage, a$$whipe!



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JohnQ


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what Rat said tED...

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eaglemig


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Since JohnQ and Craig have resorted to name calling, I guess they agree with my analysis or have no substantive response

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we have been down that road before a$$wipe - arguing substansive anything with yOU is like pounding yOUR head against a wall, one gets nowhere quick.

yOU deserve all the insults our town can pile on yOU and then some...

p.s. - yOU really should seek help for yOUR obvious mental health issues bUdDy.



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eaglemig


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Use of pejoritive once again.  Oh well I tried.

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"pejoritive" and what would that be?



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eaglemig


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look it up.

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eaglemig


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sorry for the typo it's "pejorative"

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JohnQ


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LOL!!! tED - yOUR spelling has always given yOU away...

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Hey Turd Dooty- - - look up this - - -


"A$$Wipe" - - -


Congratulations; Ya see, you are famous; you have made it into the dictionary. 



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eaglemig


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When two vowels are sequential, the firstcarries the long vowel sound.  eg Dooty is pronounced "D oh ty" is that what you're trying to convey?


BTW I'm glad to find my analysis acceptable



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au contrair...how cute he looked in a thesaurus! I must agree with rat...it's pronounced a$$wipe



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