NJ.con reworked... - The "All Opinions are Welcome, but Sorry no Instigators" Board

RTwinwill · Date: Sun May 16 10:03 AM, 2004

NJ.con reworked...

Date: Sun May 16 10:26 AM, 2004

Nice--how long did they last? lol

Date: Sun May 16 1:30 PM, 2004

Less than 3 hours... and now I can not post anymore!

Date: Sun May 16 2:02 PM, 2004

Just change your screen name--I'm on mrsstark1125 I think.

Eventually they'll ban your IP for a couple days.

What a bunch of jerks.

Date: Sun May 16 4:07 PM, 2004

YOU BE THE JUDGE - what is fair? should they all stay or shall they all go?

2108.1.1.1. Lisa/rt25yrs
by RTwilIwin, 5/14/04 20:24 ET
Re: LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD by URaTrip, 5/14/04

Here is my voice. Why is your vort group against the church reworking plans to help the environment?I thought you would be happy. Is it still just about religion to you even after all this time?

2126. Think.....
by RTwinwill, 5/16/04 10:43 ET

Here is my voice. Why is your CC group against the town protecting the environment? I thought you would be happy, as G-d asks us to protect the land. Is it still just about hurting the environment to you even after all this time?

What is the difference between the two posts above? The top one remains on NJ.com the bottom one was removed.

2128. CC adds people to their team...
by RTwinwill, 5/16/04 10:48 ET

CC still has some clowns on it. Ronnie Mc Berger the Clown and The Bucket FUND are still on it. The thing is, where is the mime? BTW RTwillwin. CC and its people have called even you a church shill did you know that?

2098.2.1.1. Vorts team
by RTwillwin, 5/14/04 16:18 ET
Re: vort adds more people to their team by rockawaygal, 5/14/04

still has some clowns on it. Crusty and bozo are still on it. The thing is, where is the mime? BTW rockaway girl. Vort people have called even you a church shill did you know that?

What is the difference between the two posts above? The top one remains on NJ.com the bottom one was removed.

2129. spoke up
by RTwinwill, 5/16/04 10:50 ET

The planning board knows all the harm they have done to the town. If CC thinks they can bully the planning board to stop a environmental nightmare and raise are taxes due to a loss of 630K they are way off base. A school would take years to build but may be a reasonable option for the land - however a new corp. resident may be nice too.

2122.1. vort is old news
by speakupnowRT, 5/15/04 22:10 ET
Re: Face the Facts by rockres23yrs, 5/15/04

The planning board knows all the harm they have done to the town. If vort thinks they can bully the planning board to stop a church and raise are taxes for a court fight they are way off base. A school would take years to build and be tied up in court.

What is the difference between the two posts above? The top one remains on NJ.com the bottom one was removed.

2130. MAIN...STREAM thinking
by RTwinwill, 5/16/04 10:58 ET

I guess the best reason to be against CC is that this development will destroy the land, pave over 20 acres of land (you know the rest...).A school for the town would also be good for the land. Most think a company would be a good choice because New environmental regulations at State and Federal levels mandate the protection of the land. While the town may have missed an oppurtunity to purchase the land...the reason has been eliminated - we now have a new Superintendant who will not drop the ball.

NO one believes they just are interested in the land to block the church. It is perfectly legal to build a school now it is worth trying. It is clear CC is looking for some sort of compromise as the attacks have hightened they know they are in danger of an all out loss. So this may never even get to court CC will see the light and pack up and find a suitable location.

2116. REASON FOR CC OR AGAINST
by MainstreetRT, 5/15/04 11:21 ET

I guess the best reason to before CC is that a church will help protect the land.A school for the town would also be good for the land.Most think a company would not be a good choice because the last one dumped on the land. The problem is the town had firdst shot at building a school and buying the land and passed on it. Now some think they just are interested in the land to block the church. Even if it might not be legal to build a school now it is worth trying. It has been writen many places that a compromise might be coming. So this may never even get to court.

What is the difference between the two posts above? The top one remains on NJ.com the bottom one was removed.

Date: Sun May 16 4:25 PM, 2004

Since you haven't kept up with events, th BOE is even questioning the bogus census projections used by the facilities committee.

We don't need a school and I'm betting that most people in town will come to the conclusion that we can't afford to spend hard earned tax dollars on a school we don't need.

The calculation of 451 current student excess is based on a funding formula that has nothing to do with overcrowding. Carl Rupp brought this to light at the last BOE meeting.

The 5 yr projection of 472 new students has been placed in doubt by the demography report itself, BOE member Mike Friedberger, and Mr. Rupp...as well as myself.

Date: Sun May 16 7:22 PM, 2004

what does that have to do with the posting above? You are really a one trick pony...the little green men are coming to take OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!! and they are all part of the BOE!...or VORT!!

Date: Mon May 17 8:15 AM, 2004

Tell me with a straight face tURD - why my kids have art-on the-cart becouse of classroom shortage??? Spin away a-hole, the truth will out you and rUSS. Get used to higher taxes tURD, we will be spending on schools, that's the way it goes when you allow new residential building in town. I would rather contribute my cash to fund schools rather than Mega-Business wrapped up as a "church"...

Date: Mon May 17 8:47 AM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Ton tURD dOOTY
"Tell me with a straight face tURD - why my kids have art-on the-cart becouse of classroom shortage??? Spin away a-hole, the truth will out you and rUSS. Get used to higher taxes tURD, we will be spending on schools, that's the way it goes when you allow new residential building in town. I would rather contribute my cash to fund schools rather than Mega-Business wrapped up as a "church"..."

I don't know what school you child attends but the same tactics were used during the failed $19 million attempt to expand the schools. One or two schools are targeted and made to look overcrowded (Last time it was Stony Brook and Dwyer). Then they drive the concept of neighborhood schools and gety a buch of moms all excited. It didn't work last time and I'm hoping it won't this time.

Facts are are empty class rooms. there was no need for "art on a cart" 5 years ago and since then we've added 20 class rooms and only 119 kids...do the math and don't be fooled.

Date: Mon May 17 9:02 AM, 2004

I have three in KDM ted - trust me, art is on the cart! I served on the committee, I did the math, I have made my own conclusions. I will vote when it comes up, as you are free to do also. Like it or not, the schools are crowded!

Date: Mon May 17 9:17 AM, 2004

Hey Ted....I visit one particular school every week and have firends who have children attending the others.......

you said
"Facts are are empty class rooms"

So...which school(s) are you talking about?

Date: Mon May 17 10:03 AM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Mark B.
"Hey Ted...."Facts are are empty class rooms" So...which school(s) are you talking about? "

Stony Brook and Copeland are the places to start. But First ask the average class size. Remember, The lower the class size, the more rooms used. Also keep in mind the "excess" of 451 students was contrived by using an inappropriate funding formula.

Open your eyes my friend, youll be amazed!

Date: Mon May 17 10:19 AM, 2004

Get back to lowes and greet some people with that bright cheerful personality you come accross with!! You are not fooling ANYONE around here pal...

Date: Mon May 17 10:23 AM, 2004

Truth hurt's, don't it. Educators, people you've trusted for years are pulling the wool over your eyes.

Date: Mon May 17 12:18 PM, 2004

I guess I must be blind - I actually have kids at KDM - no wool over the eyes genius - stop in and talk with Mr. Pagano if you need facts pal. You are really spewing some garbage on this forum the last week or so...Dr. change your meds lately??? Dude, get checked out, you are on the highway to hell...

Date: Mon May 17 1:07 PM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Oh mighty powerful tED....
"I guess I must be blind - I actually have kids at KDM - no wool over the eyes genius - stop in and talk with Mr. Pagano if you need facts pal. You are really spewing some garbage on this forum the last week or so...Dr. change your meds lately??? Dude, get checked out, you are on the highway to hell..."

I often speak with Pagano. Yes, there is a problen at KDM. The solution, however is not construction of a new school.

The reasons for the KDM problems are quite involved but stem from actions of township residents oover the past decade or so. I & others feel the way out is to redistrict instead of over burdening the town with taxes it doesn't need.

Date: Mon May 17 1:46 PM, 2004

You should make a run at the Presidency tED - you have more answers to any problem than any polititian out there. Fortunatley, most folks in town have a fairly good idea as to what is needed in our community. You are tolerated in public meetings because the law gives you that right.

The facts on hand do not jibe with what you espouse - you have NO support at any meeting I have attended, yet you (legend in your own mind) claim everyone and everything in town is fu*ked up, and only you and rUSS have the answers...boggles the mind. Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "tED - do people like Pagano listen to me because I am so brillant, or perhaps they are somewhat polite because decorum calls for it". Be honest tED.

Finally, a suggestion - why don't you start your own group in town - you could call it the "Angry bed-wetters without a clue". I am sure you could count on at least one person to join!!

Date: Mon May 17 2:05 PM, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by: You are beyond bizzare tED
" The facts on hand do not jibe with what you espouse - you have NO support at any meeting I have attended,

The facts are that schools are not overcrowded. -The statistics used by Mrs. Minenna of the facilities committee were proven to be misused at the lasr BOE meeting and census projections were called into question by Carl Rupp, BOE member Mike Friedberger and the demography report itself.

Finally, a suggestion - why don't you start your own group in town

I have started a group, thanks for bringing it up. We are called Concerned Citizens for Sensible Spending in Education. You will be hearing from us soon.

Date: Mon May 17 3:19 PM, 2004

ummm....ok - good luck with that...

Let us know when you open up for your first public meeting...