this has gotten out of hand!!! - The "All Opinions are Welcome, but Sorry no Instigators" Board

Date: Mon May 10 9:42 AM, 2004

this has gotten out of hand!!!

Date: Mon May 10 9:47 AM, 2004

Maria,

I agree with you wholeheartedly and have signed on to that idea over a week ago now. It would be very wise for all of us to just ignore him. Clearly, he just wants to start another religious fight and get the darn papers going again.

Craig

Date: Mon May 10 10:16 AM, 2004

I'll make it three. He's on my ignore list - until he comes clean with the Daily Record.

Jay

Date: Mon May 10 10:20 AM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Craig Maier
"Maria, I agree with you wholeheartedly and have signed on to that idea over a week ago now. It would be very wise for all of us to just ignore him. Clearly, he just wants to start another religious fight and get the darn papers going again. Craig"

Actually, YOUR comments are the problem, Craig. Mathew said NOTHING wrong. BTW, I really like your "hardball" story. You simply must tell it again so we all can hear how tough you are...you blowhard.

Date: Mon May 10 10:22 AM, 2004

tED - back under your rock!

Everybody - add tED to the ignore list...

Date: Mon May 10 10:26 AM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: tURD dOOTY
"tED - back under your rock! Everybody - add tED to the ignore list..."

It's okay, please ignore me. But you gotta admit, that 'hardball" story is laugh out loud funny in light of recent events

Date: Mon May 10 10:34 AM, 2004

ted is ABSOLUTELY on the ignore list...once again...somebody who has not added relevant information to the fold...he merely attacks others...(in my opinion to try to make himself feel better)...he should look at his own failures and contemplate them...you know - the old saying about glass houses...more people should live by it...

mockery of opinions/beliefs is a waste of time...

Date: Mon May 10 10:40 AM, 2004

Ted is also on my ignore list. For those in town who dislikes this man, take heart. He is getting his due. I do play one hell of a game of hardball and he is going to be on the loosing team. Slander is a very serious civil legal issue which is presently being persued.

Craig

Date: Mon May 10 10:42 AM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Maria
"... mockery of opinions/beliefs is a waste of time..."

No mockery, it's just entertaining. This guy Craig tried to impress us all with his "tough as nails" personality. Now he's wimpering like a puppy dog...and he isn't even man enough to admit his mistake.

Date: Mon May 10 10:42 AM, 2004

Many people have said they will ignore me and yet they can't resist jumping back into the fray. Both Jay & Craig have attempted to re-engage me after saying they were through.

My statements on this board (that created all the hoopla) were not "out of the blue" meant to stir up trouble.

They were direct responses to many of the COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS assertions made by several outspoken Opposers on this board.

Claims and accusations are launched and then when questioned about it NONE of the Opposers here will stand and back up what they say.

Don't ask me what these claims are, just read all the posts that I've bothered to reply to and you'll get what I'm saying.

Now you again are trying to get a group "agreement" to ignore. Ignore me all you want. I'll still be responding to any new outlandish points that are made here.

It probably is a good idea for you not to try and refute what I post. You've fully proven that you're not able to succeed at this. Better just to let my posts stand alone.

Matthew

Date: Mon May 10 10:53 AM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Craig Maier
"Ted is also on my ignore list. For those in town who dislikes this man, take heart. He is getting his due. I do play one hell of a game of hardball and he is going to be on the loosing team. Slander is a very serious civil legal issue which is presently being persued. Craig"

Fear not, there is NO evidence. Man, that craig likes to dish it out...he just can't take it.

Date: Mon May 10 2:34 PM, 2004

So, is the battle of the bigots over now? I hope so. It's getting a little too Jerry Springer around here. What do you say we send Matthew and Craig to "Survivor Island" ?

Maybe then we can get back to the REAL issues.

Date: Mon May 10 2:54 PM, 2004

I agree - there are much better uses for this forum than getting into p!ssing matches with mental deficients and shills...

Date: Mon May 10 2:55 PM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: fyrral
"So, is the battle of the bigots over now? I hope so. It's getting a little too Jerry Springer around here. What do you say we send Matthew and Craig to "Survivor Island" ? Maybe then we can get back to the REAL issues."

Help me out here, fyrral, I am a bit slow.

What was it that I said, that was in your view bigoted?

Thanks,

Matthew

Date: Mon May 10 3:07 PM, 2004

Matthew, your comments of other beliefs not getting people into heaven may qualify as bigoted, and at the very least, intolerant. But frankly, I don't really care. I'll accept that some people are going to believe that their way is the only way. I'm not going to stamp my feet and cry about it like your other debating partner. For me, religion is people talking to god, not God talking to people. Bring your own God and I'll bring mine.They are probably one and the same anyway.I do tire of this meaningless and futile debate on this forum, and what it seems to bring out in some of the lunatic fringe.

Date: Mon May 10 3:30 PM, 2004

Fyrral,

AMEN.

Date: Mon May 10 3:56 PM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: fyrral
"Matthew, your comments of other beliefs not getting people into heaven may qualify as bigoted, and at the very least, intolerant. But frankly, I don't really care. I'll accept that some people are going to believe that their way is the only way. I'm not going to stamp my feet and cry about it like your other debating partner. For me, religion is people talking to god, not God talking to people. Bring your own God and I'll bring mine.They are probably one and the same anyway.I do tire of this meaningless and futile debate on this forum, and what it seems to bring out in some of the lunatic fringe. "

Fyrral, have you read GPBC's website. Are they all bigots too?

Matthew

Date: Mon May 10 4:04 PM, 2004

Matthew, I don't care. I'm comfortable enough with who I am and what I do and don't believe, that what other people believe doesn't matter to me personally. Live and let live, and bring your own God. End of debate.No winner, no loser, just the end of the debate.

Date: Mon May 10 4:14 PM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: fyrral
"Matthew, I don't care. I'm comfortable enough with who I am and what I do and don't believe, that what other people believe doesn't matter to me personally. Live and let live, and bring your own God. End of debate.No winner, no loser, just the end of the debate."

Is see you very quickly turn politically correct my friend, when it comes to those in your own town. I guess you don't want to offend anyone you might know. But it seems easy enough to throw the "bigot" word around when it was convenient for you.

I should say it would be the end of the debate for you. It appears that you have wisely stayed out of the God wars, since you have little information that you care to offer.

I could admire Craig for his fervor, even though I feel he is wrong. You lack conviction and knowledge, yet you felt free to toss your opinion in for a moment, hoping no one would question you?

Not a chance.

But go ahead and insult me a few more times if it will make you feel better.

I'll leave you alone now in any case.

Matthew

Date: Mon May 10 4:18 PM, 2004

Matthew - fu*k you...any questions???

Date: Mon May 10 4:30 PM, 2004

I have thought for some time that you and Craig were birds of a feather . It seems your last post suggests that you agree. The only thing that I may have said that could be taken as an "insult", was the statement I made about what I saw as a bigoted or intolerant view.Instead of questioning me on that, please prove me wrong. As far as not getting into "The God Debate" as you put it, because I have nothing to offer.....well, having less to offer on that topic may mean that I have more .There seems to be too many God experts already. Sorry if I've decided to take my ball and go home. Maybe craig will play with you.

Date: Mon May 10 4:38 PM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Matthew
You lack conviction and knowledge, yet you felt free to toss your opinion in for a moment, hoping no one would question you? Matthew"

On matters of religion, one does not need knowledge to have conviction, and one does not need conviction to have knowledge. It's a bring your own god thing anyway. The debate of religion is one of things we truely don't know, not of things we do. So why debate? Bring your God and I'll bring mine. Lighten up dude.

Date: Mon May 10 5:29 PM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Pompus @ss
"Matthew - fu*k you...any questions???"

Questions? Sure. But none that you'd come anywhere close to comprehending.

Actually, I'll try one question. Do you speak in four letter words because it makes you feel better, or is your vocabulary really that limited?

Matthew

p.s. I believe it's spelled "pompous".

Date: Mon May 10 7:48 PM, 2004

Our misguided fool Matthew reminds me much of the 3 little pigs...

"little pig little pigs let me in" says the big bad wolf...

"not by the hair on our chinny chin chin" as the 3 little pigs sit safely in the strong brick home built with care.

Yes Matthew you are the "big bad wolf" it is clear to see your temper getting the best of you. It is clear that you have lost in your attempts to "blow our houses down". You prove yourself the lonely and unwelcomed wolf. The wolf who knows only to destroy not to protect its friends. You are the lone wolf, the one nobody wants.

Blow as hard as you want... but you shall never win in your attempts.

Date: Mon May 10 8:41 PM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: little pig...
"Our misguided fool Matthew reminds me much of the 3 little pigs... "little pig little pigs let me in" says the big bad wolf... "not by the hair on our chinny chin chin" as the 3 little pigs sit safely in the strong brick home built with care. Yes Matthew you are the "big bad wolf" it is clear to see your temper getting the best of you. It is clear that you have lost in your attempts to "blow our houses down". You prove yourself the lonely and unwelcomed wolf. The wolf who knows only to destroy not to protect its friends. You are the lone wolf, the one nobody wants. Blow as hard as you want... but you shall never win in your attempts. "

What do pigs & wolves have to do with the CC application?

Matthew

Date: Mon May 10 8:51 PM, 2004

Thank you, Matthew, you're right.

Guys, stay on track!

Date: Tue May 11 6:39 AM, 2004

In short - Matt is a fool - a bully - and childish. If you recall the childs tale - the pig in the stone house worked hard to build a strong home for himself -like many in Rockaway have. We, those who live here and post on the board will not be bullied by people like matthew. Matthew is nothing more than a nasty wolf.

Sorry if you did not get my point...

Date: Tue May 11 8:12 AM, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Matthew
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The three little pigs have about the same relevance to the application as the current debates over religion.

Date: Tue May 11 11:13 AM, 2004

Who is the foolish pig who built his house with straw and then got devoured by the wolf?

Date: Tue May 11 11:54 AM, 2004

Because they left that small little conditional use clause for church use. No one (not even CC) can deny that a Mega-Church could have been envisioned in that clause. If ever a do-over was allowed, this would quailfy for the all-time "woops" likenothing else ever has. SHAME ON Ireland and his cronies for trying to ram this down our throats on technicalities. I do remember early on that CC claimed it would never move here if RT did not want this Monolith...someone is speaking with a forked tounge.