I'm guessing that Jay had to step out for a late lunch or something, but in any case, I'll repost the questions from the other thread here so he won't miss them.
And I'm sure Craig will be willing to help me out and chime in with some thoughtful answers as well.
Thanks in advance for your answers, guys.
Matthew
"Never said they [Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc..] didn't do ANY good. I simply said they weren't getting people into heaven as far as I could see."
Jay,
The above quote refers to the claims of each world religion. It goes back to my question of which one offers a free, unconditional entrance into the eternal presence of our Creator.
So what you are saying, if I get this correct, is that, no matter what religion you follow, if you are pretty good, then you will get to Heaven?
Is that your belief, Jay?
And each religion mandates what rules to follow, and what passes as "pretty good"?
Do I have it right so far?
So how good is "Pretty Good" in your religion, Jay?
Is rudeness OK?
How about selfishness?
Is a little lying OK?
How about stealing small ticket items?
How about a minor drug addition, is that OK?
How about a few small assaults?
And as far as the Jewish laws, how many do you have to follow? ALL of them? All the time?
How many do you have to follow to get in to Heaven?
ANd you mentioned different Jewish sects...do each of these have different levels of "goodness" that have to be obeyed? So If one doesn't work for me, I can just join a more lenient one and then I'll still go to Heaven?
Or can I just make up my own religion (like Craig is doing) and set my own rules, and then God would surely let me in if I set the bar low enough, wouldn't he Jay?
Originally posted by: Karen "1. I didn't see where someone said "pretty good" although maybe I didn't read carefully enough--I'm at work.
OK, Then, Karen, let's simplify it to "How Good is Good enough for Heaven?"
2. Can you evade the truth and attempt to manipulate thousands of people's lives and still get into heaven?"
If you are talking about Mr. Ireland, from my perspective I have NO IDEA if he'll get into Heaven. Although it's nice to see that you're concern about his eternal outcome.
A question that you can answer much more definately is "Will you, Karen, get into Heaven".